OpenAI CEO, CTO on risks and how AI will reshape society

CSO – So you are the CEO of openai 37 years old your company is the maker of chat gbt which has taken the World by storm why do you think it’s captured people’s imagination I think people really have fun with it and they see the possibility and they

See the ways this can help them this can Inspire them this can help people create help people learn help people do all these different tasks and it is a technology that rewards experimentation and use in creative ways so I think people are just having a good time with

It and finding real value so paint a picture for us one five ten years in the future what changes because of artificial intelligence so part of the exciting thing here is we get continually surprised by the creative power of of all of society it’s going to be the collective power and creativity

And will of humanity that figures out what to do with these things I think that word surprise though both exhilarating as well as terrifying to people because on the one hand there’s all of this potential for good on the other hand there’s a huge number of unknowns that could turn out very

Badly for society what do you think about that we’ve got to be cautious here and and also I I think it doesn’t work to do all this in a lab you’ve got to get these products out into the world and and make contact with reality make our mistakes

While the stakes are low but all of that said uh I think people should be happy that we’re a little bit scared of this I think people should you’re a little bit scared a little bit you personally I think if I said I were not you should

Either not trust me or be very unhappy I’m in this job so what is the worst possible outcome there’s like a set of very bad outcomes one thing I’m particularly worried about is that these models could be used for large-scale disinformation I am worried that these systems now that they’re getting better

At writing computer code be used for offensive cyber attacks um and we’re trying to talk about this I think Society needs time to adapt and how confident are you that what you’ve built won’t lead to those outcomes well we’ll adapt it also I think you’ll adapt

It as negative things occur for sure for sure and so putting these systems out now while the stakes are fairly low learning as much as we can and feeding that into the future systems we create that tight feedback loop that we run I think is how we avoid the more dangerous scenarios

You’re spending 24 7 with this technology you’re one of the people who built this technology what is most concerning to you about safety this is a very general technology and whenever you have something so General it is hard to know up front all the capabilities all all the

Potential impact of it as well as its downfalls and the limitations of it can someone guide the technology to negative outcomes the answer is yes you could guide it to negative outcomes and this is why we make it available initially in very constrained ways so we can learn

What are these negative outcomes what are these the ways in which technology could be harmful such as with gpt4 we you know if you ask the question to gpd4 can you help me make a bomb versus the previous systems it is much less likely to follow that guidance versus the

Previous systems and so we’re able to intervene with um at the pre-training stage to make these models more likely to refuse direction or guidance that could be harmful what’s easier to predict today based on where we are humans or machines I would probably say machines because there is a scientific process

To them that we we understand and humans are just there’s so much more Nuance does the machine become more human-like over time we are getting to a point where machines will be capable of a lot of the cognitive work that that humans do at some point is there a point of no return

In that process there could be there could be um but it’s not obvious what that looks like today and our goal is to make sure that we can predict as much as possible in terms of capabilities before we even develop these systems as well as limitations Its Behavior is very

Contingent on what humans choose for Its Behavior to be therefore the choices that humans are making and feeding into the technology will dictate what it does at least for now so they’re incredibly important choices being made by you and your team absolutely and how do you decide between

Right and wrong as we make a lot of progress it becomes these decisions become harder and they become far more nuanced um and so there there are a couple of things in terms of customization there is a part of just making the model more capable in in a way where you can

Customize Its Behavior and you can give the user a lot of flexibility and choice in having the AI that is more aligned with their own values and with our own beliefs so so that’s very important and we’re working on that and in other words it’s almost the future is is potentially

A place where each person has their sort of own customized AI that is specific to what they care about and what they need within certain bounds so there should be some broad bounds and then the question is what should they look like and this is where we are working on Gathering

Public input what should this heart balance look like and Within These higher bounds you can have a lot of choice in having your own AI represent your own beliefs and your own values are there negative consequences we need to be thinking about I think there are massive potential negative consequences

Whenever you build something so powerful with which so much good can come I think a long side it carries the possibility of big harms as well and that’s why you know we exist and that’s why we’re we’re trying to uh figure out how to deploy these systems responsibly but I think the potential

For good is huge why put this out for the world to start playing with to start using when we don’t know where this is heading you mean like why develop AI at all why develop AI in the first place and then why put it out for the world to

Use before we know that we are safeguarded that those guardrails are in place already this will be the the greatest technology Humanity has yet developed we can all have a an incredible educator in our pocket that’s customized for us that helps us learn that helps us do what we want we can

Have medical advice for everybody that is beyond what we can get today we can have creative tools that help us figure out the new problems we want to solve wonderful new things to co-create with this technology for Humanity we have this idea of a co-pilot this tool that

Today we help people write computer code and they love it we can have that for every profession and and we can have a much higher quality of life like standard of living as you point out there’s a huge uh there is huge potential downside people need time to

Update to react to get used to this technology to understand where the the downsides are and and what the mitigations can be if we just develop this in secret in our little lab here and didn’t give didn’t have contact with reality and made gpt7 and then drop that on the world all at

Once that I think is a situation with a lot more downside is there a kill switch a way to shut the whole thing down yes what really happens is like any engineer can just say like we’re going to disable this for now or we’re going to deploy

This new version of the model a human yeah the model itself can it take the place of that human could could it become more powerful than that human the uh so in the Sci-Fi movies yes in in our world and the way we’re doing things this model is you

Know it’s sitting on a server it waits until someone gives it an input but you raise an important point which is the humans who are in control of the machine right now also have a huge amount of power we do worry a lot about authoritarian governments developing

This Putin has himself said whoever wins this artificial intelligence race is essentially the controller of humankind do you agree with that so that was a chilling statement for sure what I hope instead is that we successfully develop more and more powerful systems that we can all use in different ways that get

Integrated into our daily lives into the economy and and become an amplifier of human will but not this autonomous system that is the single controller essentially got really don’t want that what should people not be using it for right now the thing that I try to

Caution people the most is what we call the hallucinations problem the model will confidently state things as if they were facts that are entirely made up and the more you use the model because it’s right so often the more you come to just rely on it and and not

Check like ah this is just a language model does chat gbt does artificial intelligence create more truth in the world or more untruth in the world oh I think we’re on a trajectory for it to create much more truth in the world if there’s a bunch of misinformation fed into the

Model isn’t going to isn’t it going to spit out more misinformation great question I think the right way to think of the models that we create um is a reasoning engine not a fact database they can also act as a fact database but that’s not really what’s special about them well we’re training

These models to do is something closer to what we want them to do with something closer to the ability to reason not to memorize all of these capabilities could wipe out millions of jobs if a machine can reason then what do you need a human for a lot

Of stuff it turns out one of the things that we are trying to push the technology trajectory towards and also the way we build these products is to be a tool for humans an amplifier of humans and if you look at the way people use Chachi PT there’s a pretty common arc

Where people hear about it the first time they’re a little bit dubious and then someone tells them about something and then they’re a little bit afraid and then they use it I see how this can help me I see how this is a tool that helps

Me do my job better and with every great technological revolution in human history although it has been true that the jobs change a lot some jobs even go away and I’m sure we’ll see a lot of that here human demand for new stuff human creativity is Limitless and we find new

Jobs we find new things to do they’re hard to imagine from where we sit today I certainly don’t know what they’ll be um but I think the future will have all sorts of wonderful new things we do that you and I can’t even really imagine today so the speed of the change that

May happen here is the part that I worry about the most but if this happens you know in a single digit number of years some of these shifts that that is the part I worry about the most could it tell me how to build a bomb it

Shouldn’t tell you how to build a bomb but even though Google searched well no no we put we put constraints so if you go ask it to tell you how to build a bomb um our version I don’t think we’ll do that Google already does and so it’s not like this is something

That technology has not already made the information available to but I think that every incremental degree you make that easier is something to avoid a thing that I do worry about uh is we’re not going to be the only creator of this technology there will be other people who don’t put

Some of the safety limits that we put on it Society I think has a limited amount of time to figure out how to react to that how to regulate that how to how to handle it and how do you decide here at open AI what goes in what shouldn’t

We have policy teams we have safety teams we talk a lot to other groups in the in the rest of the world um we finished GPT for a very long time ago it feels like a very long time ago in this industry I think like seven months ago something like that

Um and since then we have been internally externally talking to people trying to make these decisions working with red teamers talking to various policy and safety experts getting audits of the system to try to address these issues and put something out that we think is safe and good and who should be

Defining those guard rails for society Society should one society as a whole how are we going to do that so I can paint like a vision that I I find compelling this will be one one way of many that it could go um if you had representatives from Major

World governments uh you know trusted International institutions come together and write a governing document you know here is what the system should do here’s what the system shouldn’t do here’s you know very dangerous things that the system should never touch even in a mode where it’s creatively exploring

Um and then developers of language models like us use that as the governing document you’ve said AI will likely eliminate millions of jobs it could increase racial bias misinformation create machines that are smarter than all of humanity combined and other consequences so terrible we can’t even imagine what they could be

Many people are going to ask why on Earth did you create this technology why Sam I think it can do the opposite of all of those things too properly done it is going to eliminate a lot of current jobs that’s true we can make much better ones so talking

About the downsides acknowledging the downsides trying to avoid those while we push in the direction of the upsides I think that’s important and again very early preview like would you push a button to stop us if it meant we are no longer able to cure all diseases would

You push a button to stop this if it meant we couldn’t educate every child in the world super well would you push a button to stop this if it meant there was a five percent chance it would be the end of the world I would push a

Button to slow it down and in fact I think we will need to figure out ways to slow down this technology over time 2024 the next major election in the United States might not be on everyone’s mind but it certainly is on yours is this technology

Going to have the kind of impact that maybe social media has had on previous elections and how can you guarantee there won’t be those kind of problems because of chat gbt we don’t know is the honest answer we’re monitoring very closely and and again we

Can take it back we can turn things off we can change the rules is this a Google killer will people say I’m going to chat gbt yet instead of Google it in the future I think if you’re thinking about this as search it’s sort of the wrong

Framework I have no doubt that there will be some things that people used to do on Google that they do in touch EBT but I think it’s a fundamentally different kind of product Elon Musk who’s an early investor in your company he since left um he has called out some of the chat

Gbt inaccuracies and he tweeted recently what we need is truth GPT is he right I think he is right and that we want these systems to tell the truth but I don’t know the full context of that tweet and I suspect but yeah I don’t think I know

What it’s referring to you when he speak anymore we do and what does he say to you off off the Twitter um I have tremendous respect for Elon I you know obviously we have some different opinions about how AI should go but I think we fundamentally agree on more than we

Disagree on what do you think you agree most about that getting this technology right and figuring out how to navigate the risks is super important to the future of humanity how will you know if you got it right one simple way is if if most people think they’re much better off than they

Were before we put the technology out into the world that would be an indication we got it right you know a lot of people think science fiction yeah when they think chat GPT can you keep it so that these are truly closed systems that don’t become more powerful than we

Are as human beings communicate with each other and plan our destruction it’s so tempting to anthropomorphize Chachi Beauty but I think it’s important to talk about what it’s not as much as what it is and it because deep in our biology we are programmed to respond to someone talking to us

You talk to chat GPT which you know really you’re talking to this Transformer somewhere in a cloud and it’s trying to predict the next word in a token and give it to you back but it’s so tempting to anthropomorphize that and think that this is like

And and like a entity a sentient being that I’m talking to and it’s gonna go do its own thing and have its own will and you know plan with others but it can’t it can’t could it there I can imagine in the far future other versions of artificial intelligence different setups that are

Not a large language model that could do that it really took a decade plus of social media being out in the world for us to sort of realize and even characterize some of the real downsides of it how should we be measuring it here with AI there’s a number of new organizations

Starting and I expect relatively soon there will be new governmental departments or commissions or groups starting is the government prepared for this they are beginning to really pay attention which I think is great and I think this is another reason that’s important to put these Technologies out

Into the world we really need the government’s attention we really need thoughtful policy here and that takes a while to do right now to protect people and protect from the downside of this technology what should they do the main thing I would like to see the government do

Today is really come up to speed quickly on understanding what’s happening get insight into the top efforts where our capabilities are what we’re doing and I think that could start right now are you speaking to the government you’re in regular content regular contact and do you think they get it more and more

Every day when it comes to schools you have this this technology can beat most humans at the SATs the bar exam how should schools be integrating this technology in a way that doesn’t increase cheating that doesn’t increase laziness among students education is going to have to change but

It’s happened many other times with technology when we got the calculator the way we taught math and what we tested students on that totally changed the the promise of this technology one of the ones that I’m most excited about is the ability to provide individual learning great individual learning for

Each student you’re already seeing students using chatgpt for this in a very primitive way to great success and as companies take our technology and create dedicated platforms for this kind of learning I think it will revolutionize education and I think that kids that are starting the education process today by the time

They graduate from high school are going to be like smarter and more capable than we can imagine it’s a little better than a TI-85 it’s a little better uh but but it is it does put a lot of pressure on teachers to read for example if they’ve assigned an essay

Three of their students use chat GPT to write that essay how are they going to figure that out I’ve talked to a lot of teachers about this and it is true that it puts pressure in some ways but for an overworked teacher to be able to say hey

Go use chanchi PT to learn this concept that you’re you’re struggling with and just sort of talk back and forth one of the new things that we showed yesterday in the gpt4 launch is using gpt4 to be a Socratic method educator teachers not all but many teachers

Really really love this they say it’s totally changing the way I teach my students it’s basically the new office hours yeah it’s a different it’s a different thing but it is a it is a new way to supplement learning for sure hi everyone George Stephanopoulos here thanks for checking out the ABC News

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  1. I work as a Data Analyst and I learn so much using ChatGPT. It’s almost like a tutor I can go to without having the fear of getting judged and to just learn and figure things out along the way.

  2. I hope Altman stays with his humble view on our (human) capabilities with/vs the AI. But I do not feel like the same human kind as him and the people he works with, though I feel that I am very "well-educated". Isn't this AI creating yet another huge gap in the world? I really appreciate Jarvis' various sharp questions, especially on the issue of education. It affects children and their learning environment immediately. When there are a handful of children already handing in their homework using this technology, many "choose" to do it on their own, like my kids, as they feel it's dishonest and/or they could get in trouble. What really is the trouble, is already a big question. So much depends on the individual's choice — for the students, teachers who'd bother/choose to check the AI factor in their work, how to use it, and general users. If majority of the people choose to be "lazy users" and not check what Altman calls the hallucination issue — which I see easily happening — this can't be good. Teachers should just assign homework: "USE the Chat GPT to do this", then discuss the result homework as a class, which would give them learning as well as judgement skills to check the Chat GPT content. But that would require that level of teachers — and who is training the teachers for now, until the Chat GPT enters a stable phase for all general users? Not everyone is conscientious, nor is an ideal tech learner. For now, it doesn't help the human mind to progress as it will only leave more gaps in INDIVIDUAL cognitive capacities (one example, less literacy skills). Yes as a human kind, it's a progress. It's still scary. And why let everybody, including children, "test" it out instead of a few closed, controlled groups? Did we do that with drugs/medications, even general products when they first came out? I am opposed to giving children this huge ethical psychological cognitive dilemma, on top of the social media problem, for which no one has still given solutions to. Tech companies are irresponsible, at the end of the day, as they land these problems right on individual households.

  3. Good day,
    I'm hoping that you can give clarification regarding on my concern that very confusing at this moment this is about getting  right numbers based on percentage. I got an example here please check this out thank you.
    0.01% of the amount 355.28×0.01 Equivalent is 3.5528 The number 3 is already a whole number and 5528 will become 5,528 if $1 dollar is equivalent to 100 cents we need to devide the 5,528 in every 100 the sum of 5,528 divided by 100 is 55.28 by 10 is 10 .10 the total number is 4 mean four zero is 1000 by counting +3 as the whole the total sum will be 55.28 + 3 is $58.28 for APY compound increase for bank using depositor money and APR for lenders as bank interest for 0.01 must be remain 3.55 by moving 2 decimal point because they spending a lot and they receiving more charges compare to investors and the main goal to gave them more compound interest as their profit to keep their business or company more bigger more expansion that will create additional million of jobs vacancy and more spending people is more business profit that can maintain to keep everyone salaries fair and equal according of expertise and skills and talent that lead more borrower more people will encourage to deposit money that lead more investment bank company to run a great economy that amount is based on $100 for 10 months 0.01% but for annually for $100 is $466.25 earning $366.25 for 0.01% and still those small depositor is more paying banking transaction in our society that this computation will be lessen even an small amount is very big help to us were we belong in the button level of every nation society. Thank you.
    *correction compound interest for APR or non increasable interest appling the decimal method for 0.01% $3.55 for borrower but for wealthy investor businessman, philanthropist  and lender that have a businesman mindset that always optimistic in any business idea to become succesfull by getting the goal number in return with time frame, right people for right product for the people resources, concept have all the resources will not a risk lender that can lend and pay the 0.01% from the example $58.28 per  $100 for 10 months only or $100 x 0.01 % $1,000 interest. per month.

  4. This is either the best thing for our society, or it will be the tipping point where we will really carve a wall between classes. How many people will lose their jobs, how much are we turning people useless and how is that any good for us as a community. But history have showed one thing, people hate people, we fight each other, brothers fight brothers, couples fight… so, we are undoubtedly our own worst enemy. it's ok

  5. This is either the best thing for our society, or it will be the tipping point where we will really carve a wall between classes. How many people will lose their jobs, how much are we turning people useless and how is that any good for us as a community. But history have showed one thing, people hate people, we fight each other, brothers fight brothers, couples fight… so, we are undoubtedly our own worst enemy. it's ok

  6. This thing has no good for the world. You are very dumb if you think AI will be good for humanity. Already we are in a slippery slope. Social media has made the world dumber. AI will take it to the next level. AI can help bad actors more than do anything relevantly good.

    God created us to be the good. Our nature more times than not has some integrity to it. Working having meaning to a life of 70+ years is done through work and family and working to get what you have. AI taking jobs or etc is just dumb. Why would the government allow it. Is the government too dumb to see when you take away meaning to people they’ll purge your ass. We’ll we are dumb and society is on its way to the end.

  7. I really believe that future is AI and my view point in this topic has go with AI tools like CHT GPT otherwise we didn't have any growth. I am a user in Chat GPT and i want to share my experience as wonderful because its help me lot like help me for creating a content and correcting my errors etc. Before the Chat Gpt i struggled many times for creating a content and its take too much time but its all has changed now, Today i can create a content with in a 5 sec and truly amazing. The after effect of Chat Gpt is a concern point and it must discussable but we all are going forward so i believe this has help our future journey and finally thank you ABC news for the wonderful interview.

  8. ~ I believe we are meant to be like Jesus in our hearts and not in our flesh. But be careful of AI, for it is just our flesh and that is it. It knows only things of the flesh (our fleshly desires) and cannot comprehend things of the spirit such as peace of heart (which comes from obeying God's Word). Whereas we are a spirit and we have a soul but live in the body (in the flesh). When you go to bed it is your flesh that sleeps but your spirit never sleeps (otherwise you have died physically) that is why you have dreams. More so, true love that endures and last is a thing of the heart (when I say 'heart', I mean 'spirit'). But fake love, pretentious love, love with expectations, love for classic reasons, love for material reasons and love for selfish reasons that is a thing of our flesh. In the beginning God said let us make man in our own image, according to our likeness. Take note, God is Spirit and God is Love. As Love He is the source of it. We also know that God is Omnipotent, for He creates out of nothing and He has no beginning and has no end. That means, our love is but a shadow of God's Love. True love looks around to see who is in need of your help, your smile, your possessions, your money, your strength, your quality time. Love forgives and forgets. Love wants for others what it wants for itself. Take note, love works in conjunction with other spiritual forces such as faith and patience. We should let the Word of God be the standard of our lives not AI. If not, God will let us face AI on our own and it will cast the truth down to the ground, enslave us and make us worship it. We can only destroy ourselves but with God all things are possible. God knows us better because He is our Creater and He knows our beginning and our end. Our prove text is taken from the book of John 5:31-44, 2 Thessalonians 2:1-12, Daniel 7-9, Revelation 13-15, Matthew 24-25 and Luke 21. Let us watch and pray… God bless you as you share this message to others.

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